[4352] in cryptography@c2.net mail archive
Re: Newsnight Crypto Bazaar
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Clive D.W. Feather)
Thu Mar 18 17:01:50 1999
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:26:38 +0000
To: cryptography@c2.net
From: "Clive D.W. Feather" <clive@on-the-train.demon.co.uk>
Reply-To: "Clive D.W. Feather" <clive@demon.net>
In-Reply-To: <v04020a03b31601bb9f08@[139.167.130.249]>
>Duncan Campbell gave his usual factual, unemotive account.
>Good man Dunc.
>
>However, no one seems to listen to what he says.
>
> - the NSA routinely intercept email traffic by diverting it
> through Maryland or NY.
Obviously "no one" includes you, because that is *not* what he said. He
said that:
- NSA monitor traffic at 9 IXPs;
- Internet traffic on routes that you wouldn't expect (e.g. UK to
Greece) go through the USA.
The latter is an artifact of his UK ISP's peering policies, and a
different ISP might well produce different results.
> - GCHQ has the right to "alter to intercept and alter any
> electo magnetic communication"
>Yet we still have "Internet Consultants" saying that don't worry,
>the police have to go through the courts/Home secretary to monitor your
>phones. What's the point when the intelligence services have
>carte blanche anyway?
I believe (but I am not a lawyer) that the Interception of
Communications Act is later than, and so overrides, whatever document
that quote comes from. I am willing to be shown otherwise using
appropriate citations.
>Then and IT medic extoled the virtues of the medical profession (who
>still embrace ECT) saying that each doctor should be issued with his own
>personal key to access patients records. Yeah right. What he failed to
>mention is that the insurance industry effectively has
>full access to your medical records - no access - no insurance.
Please remember that the UK is not the USA, and this does not have the
same significance that it would there.
>John Carr, an "Internet Consultant", who specialised in advising
>childrens charities (um)
John represents "NCH Action for Children" at the IWF Policy Board. He
and I have crossed arguments many times.
>Both Diffie and Zimmerman provided sane input - Zimmerman in particular
>stated the point - "the police should stick to traditional methods" -
>some sense at last.
I am disappointed with Diffie. John Abbott (NCIS) stated, in effect:
(1) key escrow is needed, in particular, to catch the large scale high
profile international drug dealers, terrorists, and so forth;
(2) of course the intelligent criminal won't escrow their key with the
police, but the thick ones will.
Any LSHPIDD etc. who managed to get that far isn't going to fit in
category 2.
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