[4387] in cryptography@c2.net mail archive

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

questions on AES analysis

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (William Allen Simpson)
Thu Mar 25 13:49:39 1999

Date: Thu, 25 Mar 99 16:22:11 GMT
From: "William Allen Simpson" <wsimpson@greendragon.com>
To: cryptography@c2.net

I know I'm a bit out of the loop, as I have not been studying the AES
submissions like the rest of you, but a couple of questions come to mind
on reading the meeting reports.

 1) Does the power analysis apply to all smart cards, or only those that
    draw from a reader?

    The reason that I ask is I know of a project where they want to
    build an entire IPv6 stack into a smart card, with kerberos and
    IPSec.  But, I believe that the card has its own power supply and
    antennae.  What are the constraints?

 2) What's this about patenting data dependent rotations?

    I certainly used data dependent rotations in my "Cipher Block
    CheckSum" (CBCS) internet-drafts, and discussed it on the IPSec
    mailing list as far back as '94.  (It's just a modification on the
    theme of CBC, with an extra key added, bit counted, and rotated; a
    later version has two keys and two rotations.)

    I've plenty of old printouts of using the CDC population count and
    rotate instructions for checksumming as far back as mid-70s.  Not
    precisely "cryptography", but ought to be related, as we used it for
    both hashing and integrity.

WSimpson@UMich.edu
    Key fingerprint =  17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26  DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32


home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post