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Re: IPSEC on a Palm III?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dan Geer)
Thu Apr 8 11:35:58 1999

To: Derek Atkins <warlord@mit.edu>
Cc: "cryptography@c2.net" <cryptography@c2.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "07 Apr 1999 10:29:32 EDT."
             <sjm1zhw33n7.fsf@rcn.ihtfp.org> 
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:50:45 -0400
From: Dan Geer <geer@world.std.com>


    OTOH, a Palm isn't quite a 'secure' OS, either..  Sure, you can at
    least see what you are signing, but there is no secure key storage
    available.  A trojan application could easily steal your credentials
    off a PalmPilot.  I don't know if this is the case for an iButton.



Adoption rates for hand-helds hinge on multi-functionality
(something for everyone who'll buy) yet the power of the
hand-held hinges on secure OS (authorization with teeth,
as we here understand the concept).


          | secure OS | multifunction
----------+-----------+--------------
smartcard |    yes    |      no
----------+-----------+--------------
Palm      |    no     |      yes


So, which is easier to fix -- adding a security kernel to
the Palm or adding multi-function-ness to the smartcard?

I'd say the security kernel for the Palm is by far easier
unless and until the physics of the smartcard flex requirement 
are beaten somehow -- but why bother?  Except as a container
object, I'd say that the niche smartcards occupy is going
away and going away fast.  Wallet elimination versus wallet
thinning, as it were.

--dan



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