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Re: SAFE vote and cutting crypto-deals, report from House Judiciary

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lucky Green)
Thu May 15 16:12:41 1997

Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 12:57:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com>
To: Phil Helms <phil@cccs.cccoes.edu>
cc: cryptography@c2.net
In-Reply-To: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.970515104940.591476979D-100000@cccs.cccoes.edu>

[I'm letting this one through, but I'm not going to allow a gun
control debate here on Cryptography -- anything focusing on gun
control gets nuked. Even this one is nearly over the line. -- Perry]

On Thu, 15 May 1997, Phil Helms wrote:

> On Thu, 15 May 1997, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> 
> > But you're missing the point: this whole "crypto in a crime" section
> > should not be in this bill in the first place. The new portion is much
> > better than the old, but it still has no business being law.
> 
> Why not?  There is other law similar to this for the use of firearms in the
> commission of a crime.

Exactly. Just as the provisions for increased penalties for the use of a 
firearm during a crime are unjustifiable, so are the the provisions 
imposing increased penalties for the use of crypto. To the 
anti-self-defense people on this list: you didn't really think they'd be 
satisfied with banning firearms, did you? 

-- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred
   ObPlug: read "Gun Control: Gateway to Tyranny" published by Jews for
   the Preservation of Firearms Ownership"

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