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Re: Undecrypted cyphertext (was: Re: Dorothy and the four Horseman)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (sinster@darkwater.com)
Fri Jun 6 20:09:44 1997

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 14:57:27 -0700 (PDT)
To: cryptography@c2.net
In-reply-to: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970606161945.16522D-100000@polaris.mindport.net>
	(message from Black Unicorn on Fri, 6 Jun 1997 16:21:27 -0400 (EDT))
From: sinster@darkwater.com

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> On Fri, 6 Jun 1997 sinster@darkwater.com wrote:
> > investigation.  Luckily, the unencrypted cyphertext is all that they have: 
> > the courts have already ruled that a defendant can refuse to hand over
> > their cryptographic keys on 5th amendment grounds.
> 
> Do you have a cite here?  I don't believe this is correct at all.

Hehe.  I knew someone would ask about that.  I've been looking for the
citation this morning.  Haven't found it yet.  I stumbled on it a few months
back when I was researching the supreme court's discussions on the CDA.  But
realize: this is only a US precedent.  I haven't the faintest what the deal
is in Europe, Asia, etc.  I thought that would be clear when I said "... on
5th amendment grounds".

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