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Re: Stegdetect 0.4 released and results from USENET search available

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Harald Koch)
Sat Dec 22 08:06:55 2001

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In-reply-to: gnu's message of "Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:54:04 -0800".
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From: Harald Koch <chk@pobox.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:37:25 -0500
Message-ID: <18592.1008992245@eloise.cfrq.net>

Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, John Gilmore
had to walk into mine and say:

> Niels & Peter, congratulations on finding no secret messages.  This is
> why computers are getting faster -- so we can spend more and more time
> searching out the lack of any information being communicated.

Faster computers favour the encoder, not the attacker. In this case, a
faster computer means I can spend more time making the steganography
match the statistical properties of the original image.

> PS: Cypherpunks, where *are* you putting your secret messages?  Give
> us a hint!  Surely *somebody* in this crew must be leaving some
> bread-crumbs around for Niels and NSA to find... :-)

How many images are posted to usenet every *day*, never mind the sheer
number of images stored on webservers everywhere. IANAS, but a mere one
million messages is too small a sample set to be statistically
significant.

A (paraphrased) quote from a recent TV show:

	"If that doesn't work, I'll hide it in an MPEG and post it on
	AudioGalaxy".

-- 
Harald Koch     <chk@pobox.com>

"It takes a child to raze a village."
		-Michael Fry



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