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Re: Transfers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (dancing nancy)
Tue Nov 25 01:06:02 1997

Date:         Mon, 24 Nov 1997 23:04:18 -0700
Reply-To: dancing nancy <Molly.Carmody@Colorado.EDU>
From: dancing nancy <Molly.Carmody@Colorado.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list APO-L <APO-L@VM.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
In-Reply-To:  <199711240941.CAA09969@boulder.Colorado.EDU>

        Just a few words from a transfer brother -
I transfered to the Gamma Theta chapter at the University of Colorado in
the fall of 1996, and I have made the greatest friends I have ever had.
Gamma Theta welcomed me with open arms and I truly believe they exemplify
Leadership, Friendship, and Service. One question for all you chapters
that have stringent transfer policies -- why? You do not gain anything
by refusing a brother. It is hard enough to transfer to a new school (I
went from a school of 4,000 to one of 24,000 and, without APO, I would
have been totally lost) but to be refused by another chapter of APO would
have been unbearable.
        I realize now how lucky I am to attend a school with an APO
chapter that really exemplifies Friendship. So, to answer Bryan's
question, my transfer experience has been wonderful.
In LF&S
Molly Carmody

On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Bryan Royer- Alpha Gamma Xi wrote:

>      I was wondering, how many chapters out here have some type of transfer
> policy?  If you do, what is it and what is your rationale behind the
> requirements?
>
>      I have seen that transfering is a pain in neck in many different cases.
>  Obviously, being torn from one's friends must not be a pleasant experience.
>  I think that this is multiplied when the transfer thinks of their memories
> of APO and assumes that they will be welcomed with open arms into a new
> chapter.  Every single one of the brothers who have transferred that I have
> heard of have had a bad experience.  Two of the transfers that I know of went
> into the same small chapter in the same year.  One is no longer associated
> with APO anymore will the other has had to break through some of the problems
> of the chapter in order to remain active.  This was as a result of fighting
> through tears.
>      Both of the two that have transferred to my school since I have been
> here have not been welcomed as they thought they would.  One brother who left
> my school is not feeling as though her chapter is happy that she came to
> them.  Overall, they are lacking what they need:  Friendship.  I don't mean
> the generic APO definition but genuine friendship.  I do not think this
> should happen in APO.  I try to do my part but I can't give a feeling of
> overall acceptance to those who need it the most.
>
>      I think it is a sad state of affairs because only those that are
> dedicated will seek out the chapter at a new school.  From what I have seen,
> these brothers are either ignored or forced to do outrageous things.  I do
> not think they should have to repledge nor should they be told to wait
> forever while the chapter figures out what to do with them.  I am looking at
> a Transfer Education Program that consists of intervues/signatures and a
> brief chapter history.  I think that a transfer will have a wider view of the
> fraternity because they will have seen two different versions of being at the
> chapter level.  They need a way for them to be encorporated into the chapter
> with the least amount of pain possible.
>
> I have one last question.  Is there anyone out there who has had a pleasant
> transfer experience?
>
> Acceptance is something that we all need to work on in all areas.  If there
> is someone that has recently transferred into your chapter, do yourself a
> favor.  Go out of YOUR way to get to know that person.
>
> In Leadership, FRIENDSHIP and Service,
> Bryan Royer
> Membership VP
> UDayton
>

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