[17934] in APO-L
Re: initiation / OA
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (William J. Turner)
Fri Dec 12 15:47:20 1997
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:44:42 -0500
Reply-To: "William J. Turner" <wjturner@EOS.NCSU.EDU>
From: "William J. Turner" <wjturner@EOS.NCSU.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list APO-L <APO-L@VM.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
In-Reply-To: Ellen Kranzer <ellen_kranzer@HARVARD.EDU> "Re: initiation / OA"
(Dec 12, 15:34)
> >Then I'm not the only one who has noticed the striking similarities
> >between initiation and the Ordeal Ceremony in the Order of the Arrow.
> Well, since the people involved in developing our rituals were scouts and my
> understanding is that when there was a major rewrite of the OA ceremonies
> (early 60s?) it was done by a group of APO brothers(some of them from my
> home chapter) it's not too surprising that there are strong similarities.
I would also have to point out, APO and OA were founded fairly close to each
other. And I believe Our Founder was at Treasure Island scout camp before
after WWI and before APo was founded in 1925, and the OA was founded at that
camp in 1915. I would guess, he may have had a taste of OA rituals. And while
they have changed over the years, the same similarities are present between our
current rituals and the first OA ceremony conducted in 1915.
