[1572] in Discussion of MIT-community interests
Re: OUT OF THE CLOSET
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan S. White)
Tue Oct 19 22:50:16 2004
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:34:39 -0400
Reply-To: jwhite@alum.MIT.EDU
From: "Jonathan S. White" <smoove@MIT.EDU>
To: MIT-Talk@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: <20041019212042.98060.qmail@web51107.mail.yahoo.com>
Unless we can get back to serious discussion, I propose this conversation end
right here. I'm shocked by the last couple of messages from the Zhe I went to
school with. To assert that one of these candidates is any better in God's
eyes is ridiculous. Outside of his plain lack of sense, Bush's white-tailed
a$$ needs as much repentance as anyone else on this Earth. That is unless the
bible now sanctions skirting responsibilty, drug use, capital punishment (the
most people put to death under any one governor) and waging a unilateral
unjustified war as a part of a sanctified life.
Zhe, you're skating in Presley's territory of ridiculousness. And by the way,
who the hell awoke Presley. He's been resting for a good 2 or so years now!
Anyone new to debates with him, make sure you are your own factcheck.org
because although his ideas may sometimes... err... most times seem radical and
off the wall... the man backs up all of his statements!
jw.
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Quoting Zhelinrentice Scott <zheclampitt@yahoo.com>:
> I would like to ask every Christian on this
> list to pray for everyone's eyes to be opened
> and see the truth before it is too late.
>
> God is ready to bless this nation tremendously but
> ONLY if we heed his voice, his bible, and his
> word. IF WE DON'T and Vote for KERRY
> we are IN FOR IT. If we don't repent from our
> sins of Homosexuality, cheating, lying,
> backbiting, witchcraft, adultery, stealing,
> disobedience, laziness, coveteousness, and others....
>
> OUR COUNTRY WILL BE IN EVEN MORE DANGER!!!
>
> A VOTE FOR KERRY IS A VOTE FOR THE DEVIL!!!!!
>
> Zhe
> --- Aston Motes <aston@MIT.EDU> wrote:
>
> > This email is so full of ridiculous statements that
> > I hope it was sent for
> > the sake of humor.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Zhelinrentice Scott
> > [mailto:zheclampitt@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:04 PM
> > To: Presley H Cannady; Shayna H. Hirshfield
> > Cc: zlscott@umich.edu;
> > fordschool_students@umich.edu; speakonit@mit.edu;
> > mit-talk@mit.edu; blackmail@mit.edu;
> > nh_forum@mit.edu; alsmith@mit.edu
> > Subject: OUT OF THE CLOSET
> >
> > I am offically out of the closet.
> >
> > I AM A REPUBLICAN. Why? Because being democrat
> > means being PRO CHOICE. PRO CHOICE = 48 million
> > black
> > babies being killed.
> >
> > Margaret Sanger was a racist who hated GOD, Blacks,
> > and jews. She subscribes to the population control
> > theories as well. CHECK HER SPEECHES IT'S ALL THERE.
> >
> > The dixiecrats/democrats HATE BLACK PEOPLE.
> > That is why they support abortion and
> > make it extremely difficult for black babies
> > to be adopted. STROM THURMOND is a WELL KNOWN
> > Dixie crat.
> >
> > Do you want to know WHY DAVID HOROWITZ had
> > BODYGUARDS when he came to speak at MIT?
> > IT IS BECAUSE THE FBI and LOCAL POLICE ARE CORRUPT.
> > Richard Denholm, supervising agent for the ENTIRE
> > PUblic Corruption unit of the FBI has REFUSED TO
> > HELP
> > ME even when I've told him that my life is in
> > danger. I've worked for the FBI and I KNOW how
> > corrupt they are. Aimee Smith KNOWS THIS TOO. GOD
> > IS
> > THE ONLY THING THAT IS PROTECTING ME, MY HUSBAND,
> > and
> > MY DAUGHTER.
> >
> > Currently, the only thing protecting my family is
> > GOD. Simply because I think to much. I know
> > too much.
> >
> > A vote for Kerry is a vote for:
> >
> > --OPPRESSION
> > --RACIST POLICIES
> > --PUTTING OUR NATIONAL SECURITY IN THE HANDS OF
> > People
> > WHO HATE US
> > --AGAINST GOD who blessed this nation in the first
> > place
> > --THE VAST LEFT WING CONSPIRACY to control
> > BLACKS ON EMOTION INSTEAD OF FACTS.
> > --CORRUPT POLICE, CIA, and FBI
> >
> > A VOTE FOR KERRY IS A VOTE FOR THE DEVIL!!!
> >
> > Zhe
> > --- Presley H Cannady <revprez@MIT.EDU> wrote:
> >
> > > First, let's get this out in the open.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/naes/2004_03_military-data_10-15_
> > report.pdf
> > >
> > > So for all you Mooreniks out there entertaining
> > > fantasies of the military vote
> > > breaking against Bush, the dream is over.
> > >
> > > Anyway.
> > >
> > > Quoting "Shayna H. Hirshfield"
> > <shaynahh@umich.edu>:
> > >
> > > > You might find the following article from the
> > New
> > > York Times interesting.
> > > > The first thought that comes to my mind after
> > > reading the article you sent is
> > >
> > > > of my grandparents and many other older folks
> > with
> > > whom I've talked in the
> > > > last year from across the board - people who
> > were
> > > alive and politically aware
> > >
> > > > during WWII - who consistently say that what
> > they
> > > see in the current US
> > > > administration reminds them of the Nazi buildup
> > > prior to WWII, and is
> > > > consequently one of the scariest regimes they
> > have
> > > ever seen.
> > >
> > > Any specific, meaningful parallels?
> > >
> > > > Yes, steadfastness is important. So is freedom.
> >
> > > Denying freedom and liberty
> > >
> > > > has never worked to make a populace safer -
> > > witness Japanese internment
> > > camps
> > > > and COINTELPRO - yet that is exactly has been
> > > done, in the most insidious of
> > > > ways, through the Patriot Act.
> > >
> > > You cannot say that the Japanese interment camps
> > or
> > > COINTELPRO did nothing to
> > > enhance American security. We can argue whether
> > > certain counterintelligence
> > > policies are more effective than others, but at
> > > minimum both COINTELPRO and
> > > internment hindered the enemy's ability to recruit
> > > in country and commit acts
> > > of espianoge.
> > >
> > > > The author of the article you sent refers to a
> > > "nation that tamed a
> > > > frontier;" surely that person is talking about
> > the
> > > "conquest" of this
> > > > continent, when genocide was committed
> > flagrantly
> > > against scores of nations
> > > > who had been living here for centuries.
> > >
> > > You're exaggerating. The American wars against
> > > Indian nations yielded nothing
> > > compared to the atrocities committed by European
> > > imperialists a full century
> > > before. And whether or not we judge historical
> > > figures by present day values,
> > > the fact remains that the United States
> > successfully
> > > pacified a turbulent west
> > > and brought civilization and prosperity to our
> > part
> > > of the continent.
> > >
> > > > What a thing to glorify!
> > >
> > > It is. The American war against various Indian
> > > tribes were far more humane than
> > > comparable conflicts in Africa, Asia and Europe.
> > >
> > > > Doing
> > > > "great things" and bringing democracy to the
> > > Middle East... surely we've
> > > > tried this before, in Iran, in Latin America...
> > > we don't exactly have a good
> > >
> > > > track record with that, and we're not building
> > one
> > > now.
> > >
> > > Actually, we do have a good track record. Within
> > > the past twenty years the US
> > > has assisted the growth of democracy and free
> > market
> > > capitalism in over a
> > > hundred countries. We can disagree over whether
> > it
> > > was wise to support one
> > > authoritarian interest over another in some
> > specific
> > > place at some particular
> > > time, but it betrays a lack of seriousness to
> > > dismiss the very real, two-decade
> > > long global march towards democracy.
> > >
> > > > On the contrary, we
> > > > are creating even more chaos for people who were
> > > already suffering.
> > >
> > > Based on what indicators? Even the Brookings Iraq
> > > Index indicates that the
> > > Iraqi people are suffering no more than they were
> > > before the war and doing a
> > > little bit better.
> > >
> > > > (I am not so myopic as to say that Saddam was a
> > > good leader, but come on, was
> > >
> > > > it our duty to oust him on such a thin
> > > justification?)
> > >
> > > Thin justification? The Duelfer Report has
> > > conclusively demonstrated Iraqi
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
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