[1695] in Discussion of MIT-community interests
Re: [Mit-talk] dollar bill mural
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter A. Shulman)
Wed Dec 14 13:22:42 2005
In-Reply-To: <20051214164951.GA13129@lore.csail.mit.edu>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:22:01 -0500
To: Martha Angela Wilcox <angela@csail.mit.edu>,
Jeff Roberts <thejoker@alum.mit.edu>
From: "Peter A. Shulman" <pshulman@mit.edu>
cc: mit-talk@mit.edu
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Just to be clear, the dollar bill mural is not a hack.
It is just an ordinary mural.
The hack occurred in March, 1993, when students protesting a tuition
hike (to about $10,000 per semester..) placed panels over the
pre-existing $1 bill mural with the likeness of a $10,000 bill, the
largest US currency ever in circulation. The hack was up for about
two-and-a-half weeks.
The hacked panels of the $10,000 bill are already in the MIT museum,
where I believe they have been for more than a decade.
Check out http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_year/1993/10K_bill/ for
images and more references.
--**Peter
At 11:49 AM -0500 12/14/05, Martha Angela Wilcox wrote:
>On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 10:04:20AM -0500, Jeff Roberts wrote:
>>
>> collection of the MIT Museum -- is that where the dollar bill belongs
>> now?
>>
>> 2. Sure the mural looks cool, but will it really have the same effect
>> if the cashier's office is no longer behind it? MIT decided it was
>
>My thoughts that address both of these points brought up by Jeff-
>
>To me, the dollar bill mural being removed is less of a concern than the
>glass wall replacing it. So long as the dollar bill mural is preserved
>as most great hacks have been when possible, I have no problems with it
>being relocated to a more fitting place like the mit museum. I also have
>no issue with it remaining where it is. But this is not the bigger
>problem I see.
>
>The glass wall should be reconsidered. In casual conversation
>(not restricted to this week), many people have expressed to me their
>distaste for glass wall surrounded space. In particular, the course 3
>lab area in the east side of the Infinite makes the people that work
>there feel uncomfortable. Perhaps the surveys that are being taken
>should have more options even. Milo's survey http://mit.edu/tevin/www/
>mural.html is fine, but it is just as restricting as the proposals made
>to hurried students seduced by cookies in the hallway.
>
>There seems to be a debate about whether the mural should stay or not,
>but consider an alternative. The mural should perhaps go, but a
>different type of wall should take its place- one that's more
>appropriate to the space. A student lounge should be a comfortable place
>to hang-out with friends. A fish bowl where international tour groups
>(yes, one actually walked up and took a picture with me once when I was
>in lobby 7 like I was some sort of mit statue), sketchy grad students,
>or tired undergrads can oogle at people supposedly "hanging out" does
>not sound very comfortable. In fact, being so close to such a
>high-traffic area, it seems like the only way to make the lounge
>somewhat comfortable would be to partially shield it from the
>hustle-bustle of the Infinite. Open doors/easy access is fine but a
>glass wall-good grief! Maybe glass walls are aesthetically pleasing to
>some, but the aesthetics of a lounge are less important than the comfort
>of the people using that lounge.
>
>Also presenting the committee with something that is perhaps a
>compromise between keeping the mural and removing the mural may be a
>better solution to actually getting something accomplished that will
>result in a use-able lounge space for mit students.
>
>Angela Wilcox
>_______________________________________________
>MIT-talk mailing list
>MIT-talk@mit.edu
>http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/mit-talk
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<div>Just to be clear, the dollar bill mural is not a hack.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>It is just an ordinary mural.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>The hack occurred in March, 1993, when students protesting a
tuition hike (to about $10,000 per semester..) placed panels over the
pre-existing $1 bill mural with the likeness of a $10,000 bill, the
largest US currency ever in circulation. The hack was up for
about two-and-a-half weeks.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>The hacked panels of the $10,000 bill are already in the MIT
museum, where I believe they have been for more than a decade.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Check out<font color="#000000">
http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_year/1993/10K_bill/</font> for images
and more references.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>--**Peter</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>At 11:49 AM -0500 12/14/05, Martha Angela Wilcox wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 10:04:20AM -0500,
Jeff Roberts wrote:<br>
><br>
> collection of the MIT Museum -- is that where the dollar bill
belongs<br>
> now?<br>
><br>
> 2. Sure the mural looks cool, but will it really have the
same effect<br>
> if the cashier's office is no longer behind it? MIT decided
it was<br>
<br>
My thoughts that address both of these points brought up by Jeff-<br>
<br>
To me, the dollar bill mural being removed is less of a concern than
the<br>
glass wall replacing it. So long as the dollar bill mural is
preserved<br>
as most great hacks have been when possible, I have no problems with
it<br>
being relocated to a more fitting place like the mit museum. I also
have<br>
no issue with it remaining where it is. But this is not the bigger<br>
problem I see.<br>
<br>
The glass wall should be reconsidered. In casual conversation<br>
(not restricted to this week), many people have expressed to me
their<br>
distaste for glass wall surrounded space. In particular, the
course 3<br>
lab area in the east side of the Infinite makes the people that
work<br>
there feel uncomfortable. Perhaps the surveys that are being taken<br>
should have more options even. Milo's survey
http://mit.edu/tevin/www/<br>
mural.html is fine, but it is just as restricting as the proposals
made<br>
to hurried students seduced by cookies in the hallway.<br>
<br>
There seems to be a debate about whether the mural should stay or
not,<br>
but consider an alternative. The mural should perhaps go, but a<br>
different type of wall should take its place- one that's more<br>
appropriate to the space. A student lounge should be a comfortable
place<br>
to hang-out with friends. A fish bowl where international tour
groups<br>
(yes, one actually walked up and took a picture with me once when I
was<br>
in lobby 7 like I was some sort of mit statue), sketchy grad
students,<br>
or tired undergrads can oogle at people supposedly "hanging out"
does<br>
not sound very comfortable. In fact, being so close to such a<br>
high-traffic area, it seems like the only way to make the lounge<br>
somewhat comfortable would be to partially shield it from the<br>
hustle-bustle of the Infinite. Open doors/easy access is fine but
a<br>
glass wall-good grief! Maybe glass walls are aesthetically pleasing
to<br>
some, but the aesthetics of a lounge are less important than the
comfort<br>
of the people using that lounge.<br>
<br>
Also presenting the committee with something that is perhaps a<br>
compromise between keeping the mural and removing the mural may be
a<br>
better solution to actually getting something accomplished that
will<br>
result in a use-able lounge space for mit students.<br>
<br>
Angela Wilcox<br>
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MIT-talk@mit.edu<br>
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