[1702] in Discussion of MIT-community interests
RE: [Mit-talk] Re: [Sponge-talk] dollar bill mural
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Hoffman)
Wed Dec 14 18:04:58 2005
From: "Christopher Hoffman" <choffman@mit.edu>
To: "'Andrew Lukmann'" <lukymann@mit.edu>,
"'Jeff Roberts'" <thejoker@alum.mit.edu>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:04:24 -0500
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Sincerely,
Christopher Hoffman
MIT Class of '08
Department of Aeronautical and Astronautical Engineering
choffman@mit.edu
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To: Jeff Roberts
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Subject: Re: [Mit-talk] Re: [Sponge-talk] dollar bill mural
Is that really a hack?
How does one begin to define a hack anyway, inpermanence does seem to be
one of the defining characteristics in my mind...
At what point does a fraternity prank like the smoot marks get defined
as a hack?
-ATL
Jeff Roberts wrote:
>Touche.
>
>On 12/14/05, Cathy Zhang <zhangc@mit.edu> wrote:
>
>
>>Pardon, but hasn't the smoot hack been around for a long while now? And
>>it's not like anyone's planning to get rid of the smoot marks...
>>
>>-Cathy
>>
>>Jeff Roberts wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>As a member of the evil planning profession I'm probably personna non
>>>grata in this conversation, but I thought I'd throw out a couple
>>>pseudo-historical, pseudo-spiritual considerations ...
>>>
>>>1. Someone mentioned the dollar bill being part of "hacking history"
>>>and that's certainly true. I'm no expert on hacking but it seems that
>>>there are virtually no cases where hacks last forever. They are acts
>>>of spontaneity and humor that have a limited lifespan, and then are
>>>taken down in anticipation of the next hack that catches people's
>>>fancy. Old hacks continue to exist in stories, and in the permanent
>>>collection of the MIT Museum -- is that where the dollar bill belongs
>>>now?
>>>
>>>2. Sure the mural looks cool, but will it really have the same effect
>>>if the cashier's office is no longer behind it? MIT decided it was
>>>time for the cashier's office to move on to a new home -- and students
>>>generally did not object -- so is it time for the dollar bill to find
>>>a new home as well? Should this new lounge space start with a "blank
>>>slate" allowing students to excercise their creativity in new ways,
>>>giving it a character more appropriate to what the space is used for?
>>>
>>>Anyway, that's just something to think about, I'm not really
>>>advocating for getting rid of the mural and I'm certainly not saying
>>>you should stop trying to save it -- I love it when students rally to
>>>save an important part of "MIT history", especially when they don't
>>>really know what that history is (anyone who's spent any significant
>>>time at the MIT Archives, raise your hand) ...
>>>
>>>Jeff
>>>--
>>>Drink Moxie
>>>
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