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Re: [Mit-talk] Re: [Sponge-talk] dollar bill mural

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Wally Holland)
Thu Dec 15 01:02:22 2005

Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:14:18 -0500
From: Wally Holland <waxbanks@gmail.com>
To: Dheera Venkatraman <dheera@mit.edu>
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Dmitry and Dheera raise good points here, irrelevant now but good points.
There's also the added question of why a tired/stressed MIT student would
want to sit in a miniature lounge in the middle of MIT when the spacious,
populated part of the campus designated for Student Life stuff is just 100
yards down the hall.

To these totally untrained speculating bullshitting eyes, there does seem t=
o
be a tendency toward compartmentalization in a lot of MIT's planning moves
the last few years - something like 'efficient relaxation' spaces. Does tha=
t
make sense? The idiosyncracies of MIT's layout have in part resulted from
its asynchronous construction, right, and recent projects seem to have
played that up in less organic ways. Look at the
distant-spaces-with-lines-of-sight vibe in Stata, or the floors-split-up
style in Simmons, or this lounge smack in the middle of the Infinite
Corridor. It's one thing to have an Athena cluster facing out onto the
Infinite, but there's an artificial quality to this scattering of little
breather-spaces around campus. Nominally 'personal' without being actually
personal.

Compare to the Media Lab's interior, for instance, which contains a slew of
big spaces ready for multiple uses. (How often do you hear that place talke=
d
up these days?)

Anyone out there familiar with Christopher Alexander's 'A Pattern Language'=
?

OK and I also gotta ask: does ayone else think gmail's "Save Now" button,
which flashes quasi-futuristically on autosave, is just the neatest little
doodad ever? With the caveat that if you look at it while WAITING for it to
flash, it never flashes. In this regard you introduce a data security risk =
-
never autosaving at all. So remember to blink sometimes.

W.

On 12/13/05, Dheera Venkatraman <dheera@mit.edu> wrote:
>
> yeah ok, even better, i don't think anyone's gonna be sleeping in there
> with a nice huge glass panel. leaving the dollar bill is especially a
> good idea in this case.
>
>
> On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 19:03 -0500, Dmitry Kashlev wrote:
> > the lounge will NOT be used for studying. On teh contrary it is designe=
d
> > as a place to sleep in, get some rest, and to socialize.
> >
> > ~Dmitry
>

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Dmitry and Dheera raise good points here, irrelevant now but good
points. There's also the added question of why a tired/stressed MIT
student would want to sit in a miniature lounge in the middle of MIT
when the spacious, populated part of the campus designated for Student
Life stuff is just 100 yards down the hall.<br>
<br>
To these totally untrained speculating bullshitting eyes, there does
seem to be a tendency toward compartmentalization in a lot of MIT's
planning moves the last few years - something like 'efficient
relaxation' spaces. Does that make sense? The idiosyncracies of MIT's
layout have in part resulted from its asynchronous construction, right,
and recent projects seem to have played that up in less organic ways.
Look at the distant-spaces-with-lines-of-sight vibe in Stata, or the
floors-split-up style in Simmons, or this lounge smack in the middle of
the Infinite Corridor. It's one thing to have an Athena cluster facing
out onto the Infinite, but there's an artificial quality to this
scattering of little breather-spaces around campus. Nominally
'personal' without being actually personal.<br>
<br>
Compare to the Media Lab's interior, for instance, which contains a
slew of big spaces ready for multiple uses. (How often do you hear that
place talked up these days?)<br>
<br>
Anyone out there familiar with Christopher Alexander's 'A Pattern Language'=
?<br>
<br>
OK and I also gotta ask: does ayone else think gmail's &quot;Save Now&quot;
button, which flashes quasi-futuristically on autosave, is just the
neatest little doodad ever? With the caveat that if you look at it
while WAITING for it to flash, it never flashes. In this regard you
introduce a data security risk - never autosaving at all. So remember
to blink sometimes.<br>
<br>
W.<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 12/13/05, <b class=3D"gmail_s=
endername">Dheera Venkatraman</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dheera@mit.edu">dhe=
era@mit.edu</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padd=
ing-left: 1ex;">
yeah ok, even better, i don't think anyone's gonna be sleeping in there<br>=
with a nice huge glass panel. leaving the dollar bill is especially a<br>go=
od idea in this case.<br><br><br>On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 19:03 -0500, Dmitry =
Kashlev wrote:
<br>&gt; the lounge will NOT be used for studying. On teh contrary it is de=
signed<br>&gt; as a place to sleep in, get some rest, and to socialize.<br>=
&gt;<br>&gt; ~Dmitry<br>
</blockquote></div><br>

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