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Re: [Mit-talk] Seeking feedback on alcohol policy

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Sniffen)
Fri Feb 10 16:03:42 2006

To: Jessica H Lowell <jessiehl@mit.edu>
From: Brian Sniffen <bts@alum.mit.edu>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:58:21 -0500
In-Reply-To: <20060210133650.e7m6v3tnkl344804@webmail.mit.edu> (Jessica H.
	Lowell's message of "Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:36:50 -0500")
Cc: mit-talk@mit.edu
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Jessica H Lowell <jessiehl@mit.edu> writes:

> Are people at MIT capable of discussing this sort of issue without
> it turning into dorms vs. frats?

Sure.  Raising FoC doesn't make it a dorms-vs-frats issue.  I lived in
a dorm for four years, and I think bundling housing purchase with
tuition is dumb.  FoC is only justified based on an untested belief
that dorms are safer environments for frosh than fraternities.

> it appears that the problem primarily comes from frosh.

Hunh.  Are these hypotheses made up to fit the data?  Or is there
actual data available on how many freshmen get dangerously drunk and
don't receive appropriate medical attention?  That sounds hard to
collect, so I'd be very interested to see it.

> I do not think that this is the fault of either a collective or an
> individual responsibility mentality - I live in a dorm, and even
> though we don't have membership/pledging, people still take care of
> each other, because they are friends, just as people in FSILGs take
> care of their friends.

But you do see solutions in terms of centralized social programs,
rather than decentralized approaches to microcommunities, or changing
the party culture to one in which loungehopping down Amherst St. isn't
interesting.

For example, I imagine you'd be less likely to see the behavior you
describe on the east side of campus---after all, with only 2 major
residence clumps, it's hard to jump between more than 3 or 4 parties
in an evening.

-Brian

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Brian Sniffen                                       bts@alum.mit.edu
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