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Re: DeCSS, crypto, (regions removed??!)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (tpurdy@newsguy.com)
Thu Jan 9 18:04:28 2003
From: tpurdy@newsguy.com
To: cryptography@wasabisystems.com
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:00:37 -0700
Reply-To: tpurdy@newsguy.com
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0301090507380.10376-100000@ebersisk.clueserver.org>
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 05:13:03 -0800 (PST), alan <alan@clueserver.org>
wrote:
>On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Bill Stewart wrote:
>
>> At 03:54 PM 01/08/2003 +0100, Martin Olsson wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >I dont know if this is relevant to the discussion, but in Sweden (not a
>> >region-1 country) people where so pissed at the regionsystem (and the fact
>> >that most computer geeks could go around it, but the average person could
>> >not) that the whole region concept had to be removed. Ie. this forced the
>> >large companies to rethink and nowadays we have commercial region-free DVD
>> >players in most stores.
>>
>> That's an interesting change - a couple of years ago,
>> friends from Sweden told me that the standard was to
>> strictly sell only region-enforcing DVD players
>> and then charge a bit extra for installing the
>> region-free mod chips that everybody bought.
>> I guess they've stopped bothering with the games by now.
>
>I wonder how they deal with the RCE (Region Code Enforced) discs?
>
>RCE is a sceme that causes the disc not to work in region free players.
>If you want a good test disc, try the region 1 version of "Spider-man".
>In a region free player it will bring up a map of region codes and make
>nasty noises about how you need a region one player. The disc works fine
>in players where you can set the region. (Some region ocdeless players
>can do this, some cannot.)
>
>You can find places that sell region free players by searching on Google
>for "Apex region free DVD". The only one I have used is
>www.220-electronics.com and I will not order from their insecure web page.
Googling for code-free or region-free turns up quite a few. The most
handy is buyers guide site <http://www.dvdbuyingguide.com> with links to
www.codefreedvd.com
www.regionfreedvd.com
www.zonefreedvd.com (Ya, they all look like the same site.)
www.kimsvideo.com has a $140 player with instructions on how to make it
region-free without swapping proms. Worth a look.
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