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Re: DeCSS, crypto, (regions removed??!)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gilles Gravier)
Fri Jan 10 18:21:13 2003
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:27:16 +0100
From: Gilles Gravier <Gilles.Gravier@Sun.com>
To: Bill Stewart <bill.stewart@pobox.com>
Cc: Martin Olsson <mnemo@acc.umu.se>, cryptography@wasabisystems.com
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In any case, some countries in Europe (this is the case for France and
Switzerland, for example) are starting to make it illegal to sell disks
that are not REGION-2 in the stores... so in effect, you can buy all the
region free players in the world, if you have no access to the internet
to buy your DVDs, you can't buy or rent REGION-1 DVDs anymore.
In effect, this is limiting access to local culture to only people who
have internet or travel to the USA. For example, take the movie "36
Fillette"... a French movie (French version of Lolita, of sorts)...
well, this French movie exists only on a REGION-1 DVD. Unless you can
access the internet to order it, it is not possible to view it in France
or Switzerland.
Gilles.
Bill Stewart wrote:
> That's an interesting change - a couple of years ago,
> friends from Sweden told me that the standard was to
> strictly sell only region-enforcing DVD players
> and then charge a bit extra for installing the
> region-free mod chips that everybody bought.
> I guess they've stopped bothering with the games by now.
>
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In any case, some countries in Europe (this is the case for France and Switzerland,
for example) are starting to make it illegal to sell disks that are not REGION-2
in the stores... so in effect, you can buy all the region free players in
the world, if you have no access to the internet to buy your DVDs, you can't
buy or rent REGION-1 DVDs anymore.<br>
<br>
In effect, this is limiting access to local culture to only people who have
internet or travel to the USA. For example, take the movie "36 Fillette"...
a French movie (French version of Lolita, of sorts)... well, this French
movie exists only on a REGION-1 DVD. Unless you can access the internet to
order it, it is not possible to view it in France or Switzerland.<br>
<br>
Gilles.<br>
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Bill Stewart wrote:<br>
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cite="mid5.1.1.6.2.20030109110403.02e70430@idiom.com">That's an interesting
change - a couple of years ago, <br>
friends from Sweden told me that the standard was to <br>
strictly sell only region-enforcing DVD players <br>
and then charge a bit extra for installing the <br>
region-free mod chips that everybody bought. <br>
I guess they've stopped bothering with the games by now. <br>
<br>
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