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Re: [Cryptography] Opening Discussion: Speculation on "BULLRUN"
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Phillip Hallam-Baker)
Thu Sep 5 16:43:31 2013
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:33:58 -0400
From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
To: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
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On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Perry E. Metzger <perry@piermont.com> wrote=
:
> I would like to open the floor to *informed speculation* about
> BULLRUN.
>
> Informed speculation means intelligent, technical ideas about what
> has been done. It does not mean wild conspiracy theories and the
> like. I will be instructing the moderators (yes, I have help these
> days) to ruthlessly prune inappropriate material.
>
> At the same time, I will repeat that reasonably informed
> technical speculation is appropriate, as is any solid information
> available.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-secu=
rity
=95 The NSA spends $250m a year on a program which, among other goals, work=
s
with technology companies to "covertly influence" their product designs.
I believe this confirms my theory that the NSA has plants in the IETF to
discourage moves to strong crypto.
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Website: http://hallambaker.com/
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Perry E. Metzger <span dir=3D"ltr">=
<<a href=3D"mailto:perry@piermont.com" target=3D"_blank">perry@piermont.=
com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">I would like to open the floor to *informed speculation* a=
bout<br>
BULLRUN.<br>
<br>
Informed speculation means intelligent, technical ideas about what<br>
has been done. It does not mean wild conspiracy theories and the<br>
like. I will be instructing the moderators (yes, I have help these<br>
days) to ruthlessly prune inappropriate material.<br>
<br>
At the same time, I will repeat that reasonably informed<br>
technical speculation is appropriate, as is any solid information<br>
available.</blockquote><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.theguardia=
n.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security">http://www.theg=
uardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security</a><br>
</div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;=
font-size:14.166666030883789px;line-height:14.999999046325684px">=95 The=A0=
</span><span class=3D"" style=3D"padding:0px;margin:0px;border-collapse:col=
lapse;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14.1666660=
30883789px;line-height:14.999999046325684px;background-repeat:no-repeat no-=
repeat"><span class=3D"" style=3D"padding:0px;margin:0px;border-collapse:co=
llapse;background-repeat:no-repeat no-repeat"></span>NSA</span><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14.166666030=
883789px;line-height:14.999999046325684px">=A0spends $250m a year on a prog=
ram which, among other goals, works with technology companies to "cove=
rtly influence" their product designs.</span></div>
<div><br></div><div>I believe this confirms my theory that the NSA has plan=
ts in the IETF to discourage moves to strong crypto.</div></div><div><br></=
div>-- <br>Website: <a href=3D"http://hallambaker.com/">http://hallambaker.=
com/</a><br>
</div></div>
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