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Re: [Cryptography] Opening Discussion: Speculation on "BULLRUN"

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Perry E. Metzger)
Thu Sep 5 16:53:34 2013

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From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
To: Eric Murray <ericm@lne.com>
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On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 13:33:48 -0700 Eric Murray <ericm@lne.com> wrote:
> The NYT article is pretty informative:
> (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/nsa-foils-much-internet-encryption.=
html)
[...]
> Also interesting:
> =

> "Cryptographers have long suspected that the agency planted =

> vulnerabilities in a standard adopted in 2006 by the National
> Institute of Standards and Technology, the United States=92
> encryption standards body, and later by the International
> Organization for Standardization, which has 163 countries as
> members.
> =

> Classified N.S.A. memos appear to confirm that the fatal weakness, =

> discovered by two Microsoft cryptographers in 2007, was engineered
> by the agency. The N.S.A. wrote the standard and aggressively
> pushed it on the international group, privately calling the effort
> =93a challenge in finesse.=94
> =

> =93Eventually, N.S.A. became the sole editor,=94 the memo says."
> =

> Anyone recognize the standard?

Please say it aloud. (I personally don't recognize the standard
offhand, but my memory is poor that way.)

BTW, I will now openly speculate if the deeply undeployable key
management protocols for IPSec that originated at the NSA were an
accident. I had enough involvement not to feel overly strongly that
this is what happened, but it does lead one to wonder strongly.

Perry
-- =

Perry E. Metzger		perry@piermont.com
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