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Re: [Cryptography] tamper-evident crypto? (was: BULLRUN)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Phillip Hallam-Baker)
Thu Sep 5 21:36:53 2013
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From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 21:29:58 -0400
To: Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>
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On Sep 5, 2013, at 9:22 PM, Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
> John Denker <jsd@av8n.com> writes:
>
>> To say the same thing the other way, I was always amazed that the Nazis were
>> unable to figure out that their crypto was broken during WWII. There were
>> experiments they could have done, such as sending out a few U-boats under
>> strict radio silence and comparing their longevity to others.
>
> Cognitive dissonance. "We have been...", sorry "Ve haff been reassured zat
> our cipher is unbreakable, so it must be traitors, bad luck, technical issues,
> ...".
Not necessarily
Anyone who raised a suspicion was risking their life.
> Peter.
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