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Re: [Cryptography] paranoid cryptoplumbing is a probably not

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Perry E. Metzger)
Tue Sep 17 13:42:42 2013

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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:42:34 -0400
From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
To: Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com>
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On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 10:07:38 -0700 Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com>
wrote:
> The NSA of course participated in active attacks too, but it seems
> their main MO was passive traffic collection.

That's not what I've gotten out of the most recent revelations. It
would seem that they've been evading rather than breaking the crypto:
putting back doors in protocols, stealing keys, encouraging weak
RNGs, adding flaws to hardware, etc. -- as well as doing active
attacks using stolen or broken CA keys.

I don't doubt that they archive everything they can forever, of
course.

Perry
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