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Re: [Cryptography] Gilmore response to NSA mathematician's "make

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eugen Leitl)
Wed Sep 25 18:22:00 2013

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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:16:21 +0200
From: Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org>
To: cryptography@metzdowd.com
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On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:30:40PM -0400, Kelly John Rose wrote:

> If Google, or other similar businesses want to convince people to store
> data in the cloud, they need to set up methods where the data is
> encrypted or secured before it is even provided to them using keys which

That would completely undermine their "free" (selling their customers
as a service) model. For privacy-minded, the centralist cloud model 
seems to be irreversibly dead. P2P clouds are currently too unreliable
unfortunately. What we need is end to end reachability (IPv6) and
sufficient upstream for residential connections, all running on low-power
no-movable-part systems (embedded/SoCs). Most of that is still in
our future. 

> are not related or signed by a central authority key. This way, even if
> Google's entire system was proven to be insecure and riddled with leaks,
> the data would still be secure. You cannot share data that you can never
> have access to.
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