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Re: [Cryptography] NIST about to weaken SHA3?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James A. Donald)
Tue Oct 1 10:39:32 2013

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From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>
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On 2013-10-01 08:51, Watson Ladd wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 2:21 PM, James A. Donald <jamesd@echeque.com 
> <mailto:jamesd@echeque.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     Weaker in ways that the NSA has examined, and the people that
>     chose the winning design have not.
>
> This isn't true: Keccak's designers proposed a wide range of capacity 
> parameters for different environments.

This is not Keccak's design.

This a new unexamined design somewhat resembling Keccak's design.

Or perhaps Keccak's design somewhat resembled what the NSA had already 
decided to do.


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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2013-10-01 08:51, Watson Ladd wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 2:21 PM, James A. Donald <span
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              Weaker in ways that the NSA has examined, and the people
              that chose the winning design have not.<br>
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            <div>This isn't true: Keccak's designers proposed a wide
              range of capacity parameters for different environments. <br>
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          </div>
        </div>
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    </blockquote>
    <br>
    This is not Keccak's design.<br>
    <br>
    This a new unexamined design somewhat resembling Keccak's design.<br>
    <br>
    Or perhaps Keccak's design somewhat resembled what the NSA had
    already decided to do.<br>
    <br>
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