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Re: [Cryptography] programable computers inside our computers (was:
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Ioannidis)
Tue Oct 22 22:28:41 2013
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 21:50:31 -0400
From: John Ioannidis <ji@tla.org>
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Tom Ritter <tom@ritter.vg> wrote:
And to add another, there was a presentation on ARM TrustZone, the OS
> inside your CPU, that's seems so designed for backdoors that ARM
> actually gives tips for running TrustZone invisible to the normal OS.
>
> https://www.hackinparis.com/sites/hackinparis.com/files/Slidesthomasroth.pdf
>
TrustZone sounds like Palladium from 15 or so ago. Have we learned
*nothing*?
/ji
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Tom Ritter <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:tom@ritter.vg" target=3D"_blank">tom@ritter.vg</a>></span> wr=
ote:</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
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,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">And to add another, there w=
as a presentation on ARM TrustZone, the OS<br>
inside your CPU, that's seems so designed for backdoors that ARM<br>
actually gives tips for running TrustZone invisible to the normal OS.<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.hackinparis.com/sites/hackinparis.com/files/Slidesth=
omasroth.pdf" target=3D"_blank">https://www.hackinparis.com/sites/hackinpar=
is.com/files/Slidesthomasroth.pdf</a><br></blockquote></div></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra">
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"im" style=3D"font-family=
:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial=
,sans-serif;font-size:13px">TrustZone sounds like Palladium from 15 or so a=
go. Have we learned *nothing*?</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">/ji</div></div></div>
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