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Re: [Cryptography] Serious paranoia...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (=?UTF-8?Q?Lodewijk_andr=C3=A9_de_l)
Wed Dec 25 14:57:06 2013
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From: =?UTF-8?Q?Lodewijk_andr=C3=A9_de_la_porte?= <l@odewijk.nl>
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2013 09:30:46 +0100
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2013/12/25 Bill Cox <waywardgeek@gmail.com>
>
> So, is Kriszti=C3=A1n a dork or a shill? Do we live in a world where we =
can't
> chat intelligently about security because of NSA shills, or is the world
> really full of that many dorks?
>
Wasn't scrypt mostly intended to not work on anything but a CPU? It works
on GPUs now but with the advent of Turning Complete GPU kernels and
gigabytes of GPU RAM that's really hard to avoid.
I just think being secure was also important, but not by far as important
as consistent speed. I don't actually know the algorithm though. So I can't
comment on the cryptanalysis side of things.
However, paranoia can be fun, so go nuts:
>
> http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/11/repeated-attacks-hijack-huge-chun=
ks-of-internet-traffic-researchers-warn/
There's definitely something going on there 0_0.... How hard is it to input
certain rules (let's limit the possible rules) and have the machines find
the best path?
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2013=
/12/25 Bill Cox <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:waywardgeek@gmail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">waywardgeek@gmail.com</a>></span><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;bo=
rder-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-=
size:19.200000762939453px">So, is=C2=A0</span></font><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.200000762939453px">Kriszti=C3=A1n</span>=
<span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.200000762939453px"=
>=C2=A0a dork or a shill? =C2=A0Do we live in a world where we can't ch=
at intelligently about security because of NSA shills, or is the world real=
ly full of that many dorks?</span></div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Wasn't scrypt mostly intended to=
not work on anything but a CPU? It works on GPUs now but with the advent o=
f Turning Complete GPU kernels and gigabytes of GPU RAM that's really h=
ard to avoid.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I just think being secure was also important, but not b=
y far as important as consistent speed. I don't actually know the algor=
ithm though. So I can't comment on the cryptanalysis side of things.</d=
iv>
<div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-lef=
t-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">However, paranoia can be fun, so go nuts:<b=
r>
<a href=3D"http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/11/repeated-attacks-hijack-=
huge-chunks-of-internet-traffic-researchers-warn/" target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/arstechnica.com/security/2013/11/repeated-attacks-hijack-huge-chunks-of-in=
ternet-traffic-researchers-warn/</a></blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>There's definitely something going on there 0_0....=
How hard is it to input certain rules (let's limit the possible rules)=
and have the machines find the best path?=C2=A0</div></div></div></div>
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