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Re: [Cryptography] Serious paranoia...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jerry Leichter)
Wed Dec 25 15:00:50 2013
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From: Jerry Leichter <leichter@lrw.com>
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2013 12:26:13 -0500
To: Bill Cox <waywardgeek@gmail.com>
Cc: Cryptography List <cryptography@metzdowd.com>
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On Dec 24, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Bill Cox wrote:
> So, consensus seems to be that [my previous posting] is just paranoia....
> =
> My next question is shills. I often think I'm seeing potential shills, b=
ut it's hard to tell a shill paid to subvert Internet security from the com=
mon dork. For example, on one of my other posts on this forum, "Why don't =
we protect our passwords"....
> =
> So, is Kriszti=E1n a dork or a shill? Do we live in a world where we can=
't chat intelligently about security because of NSA shills, or is the world=
really full of that many dorks?
You know, I've been a subscriber to this mailing list since ... let's see n=
ow ... early June of 2008; at least that's the earliest message I can find.=
I've stuck to it because of the high level of expertise of the participan=
ts - and the general tone and quality of the contributions. We've had seri=
ous discussions of the issues, not personal attacks, name-calling and paran=
oia.
I haven't seen much in the way of technically competent analysis from you s=
ince your first posting about a hardware RNG, and you're certainly lowering=
the level of discourse here. Either up your game or get out. The Interne=
t has plenty of places to rant.
(Just my personal opinion; I'm not the list's moderator.)
-- Jerry
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