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Re: [Cryptography] TAO, NSA crypto backdoor program

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (ianG)
Thu Jan 2 11:42:33 2014

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On 2/01/14 00:30 AM, Lodewijk andr=E9 de la porte wrote:
>  The question is whether or not it's naive to think
> it's just the NSA, it should be the CIA too sometimes. Perhaps even a
> company on a rare occasion.


It's a CSS catalogue, from the division that is responsible for securing =

all the government agencies.  I am guessing that the products are =

available for anyone who's got a close relationship.  Definitely CIA and =

military, especially special forces.  The NSA is supposed to be a =

non-active entity, it doesn't do the interventions, it more or less has =

to work in concert with others, but its incidental expertise in high =

tech makes it by accident the most likely partner in developing the tech.

So this catalogue probably goes to all Homeland agencies as well, think =

DEA, FBI, USSS, etc, although they would likely not be given the best =

toys except in high profile cases.

It is interesting to look at the classifications as well.  The GSM copy =

equipment is Secret whereas most of the other stuff is TS.  Only a few =

of the toys are 5-eyes, most is REL TO US only.  But I'd say that there =

is a lot of quiet sharing goes on with GCHQ and maybe others than is =

indicated by the REL classification...



iang
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