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Re: [Cryptography] Boing Boing pushing an RSA Conference boycott
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kent Borg)
Mon Jan 13 21:24:33 2014
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:01:33 -0500
From: Kent Borg <kentborg@borg.org>
To: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>,
Cryptography List <cryptography@metzdowd.com>
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On 01/13/2014 03:33 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Kent Borg <kentborg@borg.org
> <mailto:kentborg@borg.org>> wrote:
>
> On 01/13/2014 02:35 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>
> There should be a penalty, no question. But what should the
> penalty be?
>
>
> How important *is* this conference? I admit I have never attended...
>
>
> It is the only international trade show for the IT security industry.
>
> Try 10,000 people coming to buy products to protect themselves from
> the NSA etc.
>
>
> This is not acceptable collateral damage.
I'm not very impressed with the IP security industry ("Firewalls,
anti-virus software, latest Service Packs--okay, we are set."--seems to
be the dominant attitude I see...). Leaving them navel gazing for a
year wondering what they should do now...doesn't seem that bad to me.
Forgive me for over generalizing here.
On the other side, will the alternative security conference I am imaging
pop up anyway? Can RSA be allowed to wither for a couple years in the
meantime?
It seems it will go on--it hasn't been canceled and would be expensive
to cancel so it won't. There will be a lot of noise, the boycott folks
will make a big point--but not manage to cancel it. There will be some
empty sessions. If Colbert cancels that will be big news and help make
the point of what a damaged brand "RSA" is, if he doesn't cancel I
predict Colbert will skewer RSA in his performance and make them wish he
had canceled. They get further burned either way. Hmmm.
-kb
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/13/2014 03:33 PM, Phillip
Hallam-Baker wrote:<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:CAMm+LwjM3mMpj97ryuvXh2r3GveC3fWFiEPjKCKCh4ZD9ppNNQ@mail.gmail.com"
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<div class="gmail_extra">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Kent
Borg <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kentborg@borg.org" target="_blank">kentborg@borg.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On 01/13/2014 02:35 PM, Phillip
Hallam-Baker wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
There should be a penalty, no question. But what
should the penalty be?<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
How important *is* this conference? I admit I have never
attended...</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It is the only international trade show for the IT
security industry. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Try 10,000 people coming to buy products to protect
themselves from the NSA etc.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This is not acceptable collateral damage.<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
I'm not very impressed with the IP security industry ("Firewalls,
anti-virus software, latest Service Packs--okay, we are set."--seems
to be the dominant attitude I see...). Leaving them navel gazing
for a year wondering what they should do now...doesn't seem that bad
to me. Forgive me for over generalizing here.<br>
<br>
On the other side, will the alternative security conference I am
imaging pop up anyway? Can RSA be allowed to wither for a couple
years in the meantime?<br>
<br>
It seems it will go on--it hasn't been canceled and would be
expensive to cancel so it won't. There will be a lot of noise, the
boycott folks will make a big point--but not manage to cancel it.
There will be some empty sessions. If Colbert cancels that will be
big news and help make the point of what a damaged brand "RSA" is,
if he doesn't cancel I predict Colbert will skewer RSA in his
performance and make them wish he had canceled. They get further
burned either way. Hmmm.<br>
<br>
<br>
-kb<br>
<br>
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