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Re: Ousourced Trust (was Re: Difference between TCPA-Hardware and

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rich Salz)
Sat Dec 27 00:33:20 2003

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From: Rich Salz <rsalz@datapower.com>
To: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
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> 2) certificates were fundamentally designed to address a trust issue in 
> offline environments where a modicum of static, stale data was better 
> than nothing

How many years have you been saying this, now? :)  How do those modern 
online environments achieve end-to-end content integrity and privacy? 
My guess is that they don't; their use of private value-add networks 
made it unnecessary.  If my guess is/was correct, than as more valuable 
transactions (or regulated data) flow over the commodity Internet, then 
those things will become important.  Make sense?  Am I right?

If so, then I believe that we need a federated identity and management 
infrastructure. The difference is that the third-party PKI enrollment 
model still doesn't make sense, and organizations will take over their 
own identity issues, as with SAML and Liberty.  Once you do that, adding 
"publicKey" as just another attribute is no big deal.  With any luck, 
the new year will bring the analogy SOAP::other middleware as SAML::x.509 :)

	/r$
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Rich Salz, Chief Security Architect
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