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Re: Strong PRNG with AES or 3-DES

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Tillotson)
Mon Aug 10 15:29:42 1998

Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:39:06 +0100
From: Mark Tillotson <markt@harlequin.co.uk>
To: mdw@umich.edu
CC: aes@suburbia.net, coderpunks@toad.com, cryptography@c2.net
In-reply-to: <199808101028.GAA20426@quince.ifs.umich.edu> (message from Marcus
	Watts on Mon, 10 Aug 98 06:28:25 -0400)

| Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@stud.uni-muenchen.de> writes:
| > 
| > I wonder whether a method that I employed in another situation of
| > pseudo-random number generation could be of some use to you. It is
| > addition of two pseudo-random real numbers streams (in my case in [0,1))
| > mod 1.
| > ...

| Addition mod 1 is not normally considered useful.  Any integer
| modulo 1 is 0, and hence has zero information content.

But for _reals_, which is what is being talked about, it is perfectly
useful.   The interval [0,1) would also be rather pointless in the
integral domain!
| 
| Probably M.K.Shen meant to say "addition modulo 2", which is
| indeed a popular means of combining data in cryptography.
| ....
| 
| 				-Marcus Watts
| 				UM ITD PD&D Umich Systems Group


Anyway, surely we are talking about rationals or floating-point, not
true reals?!?  Just notating a random real number is computationally
infeasible, requiring infinite space.


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