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Re: [Cryptography] Conferences, committees, compliance
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Arnold Reinhold)
Mon Jan 20 11:13:46 2014
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From: Arnold Reinhold <agr@me.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 06:23:27 -0500
To: "jamesd@echeque.com" <jamesd@echeque.com>
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ianG <iang@iang.org>
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On Jan 19, 2014, at 9:54 PM, "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote:
> On 2014-01-20 08:47, Arnold Reinhold wrote:
> > If new cryptography is going to have any chance roll back the mass
> > surveillance state, it will have to make its way into commercial
> > use.
>
> IETF committees are owned by the surveillance state. Have to be
> bypassed.
>
> Your argument amounts to saying that only NSA approved software is
> going to get broad acceptance. I think more likely the other way
> around.
>
You may be right, but perhaps others see things differently. Shouldn't they be encouraged to try? Restoring a proper privacy balance between the state and the people won't be easy and it is too soon to surrender on the committee front.
Arnold Reinhold
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