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RE: IP: State Govt Will Use Datakey Smart Cards

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ed Gerck)
Wed Oct 7 23:55:42 1998

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 02:34:25 -0200 (EDT)
From: Ed Gerck <egerck@laser.cps.softex.br>
To: "Guthrie, Paul" <pguthrie@visa.com>
cc: "Arnold G. Reinhold" <reinhold@world.std.com>,
        Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>, cryptography@c2.net,
        dcsb@ai.mit.edu
In-Reply-To: <C54E91F42C11D2118CED0001FAF8DD668FF4EC@sw720x017.visa.com>

On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Guthrie, Paul wrote:

>
>Well, I don't want to get into nuances of public key cryptosystems since
>..

Anything can be legally repudiated... or policy forbidden/allowed ..
and that is why I prefer to divide the issues of non-repudiation
according to the state-space given before:

 > Well, non-repudiation has:
 > 
 > 1. syntatic form (Is the signature yours?), 
 > 
 > 2. semantic form (Did you understand what you were signing?),
 > 
 > 3. trust form (Did you yourself willfully sign it?),
 > 
 > 4. identification form (Are you who you claim to be?),
 > 
 > 5. temporal form (when did you sign it?),
 > 
 > 6. local form (where did you sign it?),
 > 
 > etc.

That neither includes law, nor policy -- directly. As needed, you
just have to combine the "ingredients" for a specific "law/policy
non-repudiation recipe", as a boolean function that uses 1,2,. etc
above as functional inputs.

However, IMO and I see that confirmed in the postings, a Datakey
smartcard can provide no verifiable functional input changes from the
list 1, 2, ... above, as a function of certification. And, rather
mathematically ;-), that would make any Boolean function of them to
be independent from inputs.

Hence, always repudiable for *any* law/policy combination, since it
does not depend on inputs -- whereas they must be.

This directly undermines any non-repudiation feature for the
(Channel) CA infrastructure. If certification is repudiable in its
primary act, then any derived act is also.

Cheers,

Ed Gerck

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